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Post by Aisha on Jun 6, 2016 20:39:35 GMT -5
So, as some of you know, half of the Kaleidoscope Council plus other members have left. This may seem rather sudden, but for many of us who have left, it isn’t. We’ve thought of leaving multiple times, and now, we finally have. We left our suggestions on the Council before leaving, and you’re free to use them.
Hei has made it bluntly clear about how he wants to run things here. I disagree with the direction he’s leading his team in, and so I, along with several others have left. He and I had had many disagreements in the past. Some small, some large, and one in particular that has made me want to leave for a long time.
Hei, I still firmly stand by my statement: “If you forever distance yourself from the members, this team will never grow.”
Also, to clarify to others, we are not poaching this team’s members. We asked people who dislike Hei and his leadership if they wanted to join, and some agreed to follow us. We also sent out invitations to members we got along with. Some of whom accepted, whilst others declined.
Oh, and @hei. Since you blocked me before giving me the chance to respond to your PM on Skype, here ya go: [6/5/2016 2:01:35 PM] Hei: So I heard you quit. Thanks. [6/5/2016 2:10:55 PM] Hei: Thanks for communicating with me about it. ESPECIALLY after I was getting better. You were right. THIS is when I kick you. [6/5/2016 2:45:33 PM] Aisha: I did. I've been thinking of it for a while. I had my doubts, but after some serious thinking, I made my choice. It's good to know you're doing better. Keep at it, and maybe someday you'll rebuild as a better leader Goodbye, Hei.
Kaleidoscope WAS my home. But, you killed off most of my family. I’d also like to add that we would have left even if you weren’t away. With the kind of things you’ve said and done, it was only a matter of time.
And, mannn, all the trashtalking Hei, Ice, and the followers have been doing has been….. amusing, to say the least. Keep it up, pals.
Also, you may need to look up the definition of “petty” You tend to use that word often, yet you don’t quite understand it’s meaning.
I could go on, but I’ll stop here.
Regards, The Revolutionary Council.
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Post by d4rkw0lf13593 on Jun 6, 2016 23:52:48 GMT -5
Well. That was pretty empty. Anything else you'd like to say? Something real this time? I know I am just a newcomer, but hey. I know a little something about people. And you seemed okay to me. Too bad looks are deceiving. Even if you were going to leave before he left on his sabbatical, it was still pretty fucked up to do that like you have. Didn't know you were such a snake in the grass. Didn't know y'all were honor-less, spineless douche-bags. I don't care what he did, or how he treated you. You don't kick a man when he's down like that. You just don't. I don't understand what makes people like you tick. Care to explain? Matter of fact, don't bother. It'd just be a bunch of hot air from a group of dickless scumbags. Have a nice life. And enjoy your new team. You deserve each other. Good fucking riddance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 23:58:40 GMT -5
I only want to know why you're still here. If you've left Kaleidoscope than leave the Kaleidoscope website. Doesn't really seem like there's a point to me.
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Post by Bruh on Jun 7, 2016 0:03:42 GMT -5
"Revolutionary Council". Yes a council only filled with topics about Pokemon and not talking to the whole group about problems. One part you basically described poaching by "asking people what they think about Hei and his leadership" then convincing them to join your side. You're literally telling people to join the dark side. The whole goodbye message was only answering things people said about you. There was no reason WHY you guys decided to leave. How was Hei mean? How was he not looking to the future. How the fuck was he not close to members? You didn't even mention one piece of shit about you! Was the council doing their job? FUCK NO! You just sat around your asses NOT recruiting and blame ONLY Hei for things. Is it really Hei that's the problem or is it you all? And "some of us were thinking of leave"? Why the fuck didn't you say shit about it?! 7 people is barely even some. Also the reason why I know you guys only want Pokemon is because you bitch at Hei for not staying closed in. Let me ask you a question. Has there EVER been a group that was POPULAR and revolved ONLY around Pokemon? Oh wait that's right. Only the damn CREATORS, GameFreak! All I have left to say is why even stay on the forms and even if you were banned here don't try and get your "followers" to help you get unbanned. Just leave and stay gone.
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Post by Bruh on Jun 7, 2016 0:04:02 GMT -5
"Revolutionary Council". Yes a council only filled with topics about Pokemon and not talking to the whole group about problems. One part you basically described poaching by "asking people what they think about Hei and his leadership" then convincing them to join your side. You're literally telling people to join the dark side. The whole goodbye message was only answering things people said about you. There was no reason WHY you guys decided to leave. How was Hei mean? How was he not looking to the future. How the fuck was he not close to members? You didn't even mention one piece of shit about you! Was the council doing their job? FUCK NO! You just sat around your asses NOT recruiting and blame ONLY Hei for things. Is it really Hei that's the problem or is it you all? And "some of us were thinking of leave"? Why the fuck didn't you say shit about it?! 7 people is barely even some. Also the reason why I know you guys only want Pokemon is because you bitch at Hei for not staying closed in. Let me ask you a question. Has there EVER been a group that was POPULAR and revolved ONLY around Pokemon? Oh wait that's right. Only the damn CREATORS, GameFreak! All I have left to say is why even stay on the forms and even if you were banned here don't try and get your "followers" to help you get unbanned. Just leave and stay gone.
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Post by Espeon on Jun 7, 2016 0:44:05 GMT -5
We have no bad intentions. We kicked him while he was down? It's called retaliation. Why we did it? Because Hei's given us nothing but SHIT for the past 6 months. I can't speak for the others, but I'll speak myself. I love you all. I wish it didn't turn out like this. But corrupt leadership is something I can only follow so much. I can't speak for anyone else, but all of Kaleidoscope, all of Hei's followers: I can only give you one piece of advice: RUN. Run like all hell. Unless this place fixes itself, there's nothing here for you. You can join us, if you like, but I don't want to "poach". Just get out of here.
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Post by Ice on Jun 7, 2016 0:57:36 GMT -5
Aisha, all I have to say is that it does not bother me that you all left. I saw it coming and so did Hei. We were not mad about that, it happens and through real life situations have learned that trying to fight someone to stay when they want to leave is pointless and just let them leave because that is what they want, no point forcing otherwise. The thing that made both Hei and myself mad and lose respect was the poaching. Poaching members are when you invite members from one team or guild that they exist in to leave that team or guild to join your own, which was exactly what happened. It would have been one thing to announce publicly that you were leaving to make your own team and they left like that, it was not your intention in that case to gain members it just happened. The fact that you messaged people with the intent to get them to leave or for the hope that they would leave this team for yours is when it becomes poaching. That is the lowest you can get and that is why feelings are hard right now.
For the trash talking, in most views right now it is the truth, but yes still trash talking. I will give you that. But some of the things you were complaining were your fault. Example being that a while back you guys tried setting a rule to recruit 3 people either a day or week. Before leaving you all were given full control while Hei got his life together. Then was your time to put that rule into action, even more so when i left for a 10 day vacation. Instead it did not get done and then you tried saying that you dislike Hei's mass recruiting and sounded like you were blaming him for the fact the 3 person recruiting rule was not enforced. You all had full power to do as you wanted and did nothing and are now leaving on bad terms, even more so with this good bye message. All I am doing in this message is explaining. Please try to not take any offense to it as things do not need to get worse than they already are. I am sorry things had to end this way, saw you all as good friends on the team and hate to see you all go but I will not stop you since it is what you want. I just wish it to try and remain civil
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Post by Espeon on Jun 7, 2016 1:17:32 GMT -5
Thank you, Ice. What we need is someone acting as the voice of reason here. I agree, you're all trashtalking. I agree, I didn't want this forum takeover either. We had to, because we needed to finish up deleting our things. Blondie's playing us all. She ratted us out after helping us prepare to leave, so please, don't trust her. For the sake of KLDP. I wouldn't say we're poaching, honestly, we just want support. We're not forcing anyone. So, please, if you don't like us, stay. I love you all, though.
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Post by Nigga on Jun 7, 2016 1:29:16 GMT -5
Espeon you piece of shit. You tell us to run and join you a and still saying you're not "poaching". You did it again. Why the fuck would we want to support you? How about you go off and fucking "run" (even though this is the Internet and you can't do shit bitch) and start actually recruiting instead of trying to steal members from here and saying Hei is a corrupt leader. You should have said something to ALL of us if his shit was bothering you but instead you wasted 6 damn months bitching to your other traitors and finally doing something AFTER you get kicked out.
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Post by Poop on Jun 7, 2016 1:33:36 GMT -5
Ya why are you threatening us to run and saying there's nothing for us here? You're basically saying you own Kaleidoscope now and everyone on the good side (Hei) isn't welcomed. Nice try asshole.
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Post by BitchSlapper on Jun 7, 2016 1:36:40 GMT -5
You also say you're "deleting our things" which is probably the shitty reasons you're doing this and then blame blondie for telling us the stupid crap you all are doing. Fuck out of here.
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Post by Ice on Jun 7, 2016 1:38:14 GMT -5
Espeon, i will admit that by definition we were trash talking, negative things stated behind someone or some people's backs. That does not mean that any of what we said during that was not true so please understand that as well. By definition you all were poaching and the least you can do because you did that would to be to admit to it. Steven even copied and pasted what all he saw and what you sent to him, so we know it was poaching so no need to hide it. It has happened though and can not do anything to change it now so no need to argue about it. Hei is not corrupt, you all just did not like where he was taking the team nor his meathods of doing it. Does not make him corrupt, just makes him different. Emily is to be trusted because she remained loyal to us and as it was happening (refering to the other day) was letting us know because she knew there was not anything else she could do about it. The people still here currently like the direction the team is going and like Hei as a leader. The fourm overtaking was not needed at all. Yes Hei blocked you all but Math, even I did when I learned the full story, but it was clear that you did not want to be a part of this team any longer therefor no matter the reason you really did not need to come back to the team fourms. This is not your team any longer therefor you do not belong here at this time. And this message has also gotten you all more negative reviews than positive, making it less worth it to go through all the trouble to put it up. Best option is to accept the losses and give ownership of the fourms to Hei and get all of your personal stuff copied to your personal computer or keep the fourms if you wish and we go make a new one else where. Although if you do keep it please change the name as it would not be team kaleidoscope anymore but your ownteam with your own name. More discussions about the fourms will go on between Math and Hei so further disscussion can be brought up then.
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Post by Crystal on Jun 7, 2016 1:59:29 GMT -5
...even I did when I learned the full story... Not going to be a part of a longer discussion here, just wanted to point out that you don't know the full story until you have heard it from everyone. Can't speak for anyone else, but I for one was planning on sending a longer message to Hei when I was leaving. But I never got the chance.
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Post by The Truth on Jun 7, 2016 2:07:34 GMT -5
Why did you use the false me in the Skype chat? I only love them all yes but not you traitors. Throwing BS everywhere. Where was your reasoning for this? Oh wait you have none. Why didn't you talk to them about this? Oh wait you didn't feel like it for 6 months. Don't fake use me like that. That's just being a dick. And that's the truth.
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Post by Ice on Jun 7, 2016 2:23:23 GMT -5
Know what. That was the last straw for me. Stay out. Bad enough you guys began damaging the team on your way out but now causing drama by coming into the skype team chat unwelcomed just to cause drama is uncalled for. You all wanted out so get out and stay out. That is all I have to say. There is no call for this drama over you all just wanting to leave.
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